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Campaign manager's sitting next to him? >> yeah. and it's also reasonable -- >> of course it's reasonable. >> that's why i think he's got something to give to the prosecutor. paul manafort -- to robert mueller. didn't you ever hear him talking about how putin operates, how he deals with ukraine and what he really wants? he wants ukraine in some form. squle definitely has something to give. but the prosecutor doesn't have to give him very much to get it. right? because the prosecutor has him dead to rights, a. and b, he has gates. >> gates is the kedeputy. let me ask you a cosmic question. a gl...

Bigger, harder cosmic question. it is very hard to report on what we don't know and we try not to report ignorantly. what you're saying as i understand it, in some ways it is possible that the biggest story, the biggest problem overhanging this administration is the fact it is possible because of the secrecy that the president owes major amounts of money. things that involve his personal interest. his future. his ego. his children's well being to foreign powers that might be affecting our security, our livelihood in america and we don't even know who he owes. >> we have no idea who he owes mon...

Want to curry fever with the administration and booking sxrooms the ball rest. including foreign governments. and that may of course be a violation of the emoluments clause. but second, when you have a real e sta estate empire that is falling, there are serious problems with creditors and then he has to refinance the debt west still do not know to this day where the president of the united states is borrowing large chunks of his money for his real estate business. all we know is that there are a lot of bankers in new york who didn't get paid back in the 1990s and don't want to give him money. ...

We're going to make america great again. believe me. >> at the core of my contract is my plan to bring jobs back to our country. >> that was the plan. dreams and jobs. how is it working out now that we can actually fact check this tax plan? i'm joined by the columnist from the new york daily news who writes the republicans are asking the middle class to play dead while tax reform walks all over them. >> it was a variation of the famous old daily news headline. florida city drop dead. which may have cost gerald ford the election. nobody is saying to drop dead but to play dead because they're ge...