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Important one. we'll have to find ways to capture carbon from industrial processes and take carbon out of the air as we move ahead. the reason this was so sticky for the right is that what the story they wanted to tell was, look, real energy is fossil fuels. that's what the market says is cheapest. that is easiest. and the democrats want to create winners and losers u.s. government welfare to prop up the other sources. and at some level that is true at a cost -- as a cost matter for many, many years. but it really has unverted now. coal is the thing that needs the government support and welfar...

Reason why cylinder was so sticky, for the right. was the story they wanted to tell was, real energy is fossil fuels. that's what the marker says this cheap is. that's what's easiest. the dems want to create these winter and losers, and use government welfare to prop up artificials in these other sources. and at some level that was true at a cost matter for many many years. but it really has inverted. now it's like cold, is the thing that needs the government support and welfare. and the cleanest energy is actually the cheapest. >> yes all the free market advocate in the cold, in the industry,...