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The reason was nobody talked about the details of the bill. it would have cost 24 million americans their healthcare, it would have raised prices for seniors, it was a major tax cut for the wealthy and an $800 billion cost shift for the states to pick up the medicaid and it was an awful bill and i think people across the country revolted against it. sometimes the substance actually matters. in terms of russia, this is -- i've said before, this is the most important thing i've ever done in my public life, and what i know now as i get more and more into this, i will double down on that statement...

So two things need to happen. one is, let's change the tax credit to make sure there's more there for those who need to be covered. secondly, give us the ability to control the numbers and the cost. then we can manage the population even though we might not get the same level of reimbursement. we need continued federal participation, flexibility of the states. so i don't see it as breaking a commitment. it's just a cost shift to the states that we're very concerned about. >> and very concerned you should be. right now president trump does not have your support as this bill stands? >> i do not ...

Then abruptly reduce the amount of money states get in order to service that population. and so he's describing it as a cost shift. it's also a shift of political pain away from the republican congress so they don't have to wait to see they're all off their health care now and putting the burd own someone luke asa hutchinson to say over a period of time we're going to give you less and less. that's a politically clever thing for congress to do. for republican governors in arkansas, as you said, it's certainly not the only state. they're speaking up to say this is not going to work for us. >> a...

Bipartisan agreement, but i think those are some of the places where we need to focus rather than, you know, we're just going to block grant it, take it off the federal government's ledgers and shift a lot of the financial responsibility to states or individual americans. that is not a solution. that's simply a cost shift. >> yeah. dr. ezekiel emanuel, no one knows more than you how complicated this will be. thank you for helping us understand it. >> pleasure to be here. thank you and happy new year again. you too. let's get to chris. why is president-elect trump so slow to admit that russ...

To the health care law as it stands? >> we have health care savings accounts that expanded broadly in the business community and xhrgs market through employer-sponsored insurance. they are not really that powerful in terms of changing the dynamics. you're still going to have to subsidize people who don't make enough money to buy insurance on their own. it's unclear how you're going to do that. block granting medicaid, the whole point is to reduce the federal financial spending on medicaid. that just makes the states pick up more of the bill as the bill expands. it's not a solution, just a cost...