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Raising the medicare age. we are not throwing america's seniors over the cliff to give a tax cut to the wealthiest people in america. >> i have to ask you, sir, is there a fight over medicare within the democratic party? and is that contributing to the lack of progress in these negotiations? >> no, there isn't. the democratic party supports the president. he's looking for savings in medicare like we have prescription drug price negotiation, that saves $160 billion. what we don't want to do is cost shift or raise the eligibility age. serve on everybody is on a razor's edge. bottom line, this re...

Kicking them off medicare rolls will pop back up in the economy. it's not pure savings, it's a cost shift. first and foremost, you're going to see increased costs for seniors who will have to find another health insurer since medicare is huge and uses its bargaining power to pay less by quite a bit. the seniors turning to private insurance will have to pay more for the same coverage. 3.7 billion more in the first year of the policy. for those 65 and 66 years old who are eligible for medicaid, states will have to pick up some of that tab. so three-quarters of a billion dollars will pick up that...

It saves money. the keizer family foundation estimates that when it's all said and done, the government could save $5.7 billion in the first year. but those 65 and 66-year-olds don't disappear. they are still going to be here and get sick sometimes which means the savings we'd see by kicking them off they pop back up elsewhere in the economy. it's not pure savings, it's a cost shift. you're going to see increased costs for seniors who will have to find another health insurer since it uses power to pay less by quite a bit. the seniors turning to private insurance will have to pay more for the s...

Mission all along to be the protector of medicare. is he doing a 180 from his previous position by attacking this thing in his budget, or could it be seen as an evolution or it is a total u-turn. >> it's -- a year ago, he had a budget that ended the traditional medicare program. there was nothing but private insurers in there and would have been a $6,400 cost shift to seniors. by far the most radical health care form anyone has put forward in memory. but it was a year ago, not when he was in fifth grade or 20 years ago. it's hard to get awa from that and say in our hearts, we would ever end th...

Thought i did. you pick paul ryan because you are going to run as a campaign that is sort of willing to make the tough choices on medicare, willing to cut medicare. i really don't understand the paul ryan pick in the new context of the romney campaign in which you're the campaign that doesn't want to cut medicare, that you would never cut medicare, because ryan's budgets have been pretty -- have had really significant medicare cuts. much, much larger, particularly in the initial ryan budget, the one from 2012 that was released in 2011. so in that budget, it would have eliminated traditional me...