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There was a case involving a british company in cote de ivoroire 15 or so years ago. 0bviously they re going to be issues with climate change, difficulty and the challenge and i accept that challenge is where you draw the line? am i in ecosider because i drive a car that s only partially electric or because i m involved as lawyer doing cases on oil and gas exploitation. i absolutely accept that. but what i would say to you, stephen, is go back to that 1945 letter. hang on, we ve discussed that and we decided that frankly, the great ambitions of 45 haven t been realised. i m going to end by quoting you somebody who i suspect you may know michael carnavas. he s a defence attorney, involved in the tribunal on the former yugoslavia. he says i m all for stopping ecocide. but please, ....