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Channelled the anger and the pain that folks are feeling in terms of their own lives. hillary clinton basically did a laundry list of what her plan would be. he seemed to pivot to nato in that question. but i think it is true that he seems to lose stamina as these debates go on. he seems to sort of remember slights. i mean, in that answer where he said such a nasty woman about hillary clinton, i think she was talking about entitlement reform at some point. it was like this thing he couldn't control. he just had to say it. it was such an odd moment. >> i agree. it's also puppet moment where the...

They're not going to give you the latitude on those kinds of things. >> casey, what's interesting, you hear the president, he was basically saying -- he didn't say it this way but the excuse was, you know, nsa has so much technology now at their disposal, we have to tell them what not to use and we didn't tell them that they couldn't do this, and that's the way -- it almost makes you wonder, is there no common sense used at nsa? >> well, it sounds like if they had the technological capability -- >> they went ahead and used it. >> they were collecting it. but the question in my mind is at what ...

Plans. >> all right. lisa myers, investigative correspondent, thank you, ma'am. >> you bet. all right. well, if republicans end up keeping the house and keeping control of it next year, they believe they'll have one issue to thank and it's health care. they're hoping public anxiety and frustration over the new program replaces anxiety and frustration over the government shutdown, which drove gop approval numbers as low as 24%. i spoke with greg walden, chairman of the nrcc, the man in charge of keeping the house. right now there are 231 republicans, 200 democrats and four vacant house seats....

Been that involved in the rollout. i mean the website, whoever did the website, that's the problem. >> i'm talking about selling the overall exchange. >> i think they'll be there. they want that market. i mean, they want to go after those people who don't have health insurance if there's going to be a government subsidy. they want to sell that product. >> you think they're going to be an asset at some point. >> absolutely. they'll fight to be able to sell the product of health insurance just like they are now in selling prescription drugs. there's a lot of competition, we get a better product ...

Accident. the next hearing is scheduled for october 15th. we are back with attorney steve razor. all right, steve, is this a case of she says he can't say because he's at the bottom of the cliff? >> unfortunately she's said enough to convict herself. >> she has? what did she say? >> she admitted to pushing him off the cliff and doing it out of anger. and she also defeated any possibility of a self-defense claim by saying that he moved away from him, he turned around, his back was to her, she could have walked away but didn't and out of anger pushed him off the cliff. >> did she push him out ...