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Was behind bars. >> going to trial, what did you think? >> i felt we had a strong circumstantial case. >> at trial the prosecution argued homicide. the defense, self inflicted gunshot wound. the jury sided with the state, conrad truman was convicted of heidi's murder. >> it was like, finally got him. finally got him. >> as far as you knew, that was it? >> that was it. >> did you think that was it? >> i did. >> but if you think that was it, well, then you haven't been watching enough "dateline." coming up, heidi's heart break. >> she did not know her dad and she had always wanted that. that r...

That's why there is no proof. you know, this is just a big injustice. >> the judge had heard that before. the sentence he imposed. 16 years to life. crushing for conrad and his family sitting behind him, including sister colette. >> you want to believe that things turn out the way that they're supposed to. and that's just not always the case. >> in prison, conrad did what many do, he retraced the steps that led him there. he thought a lot about the night heidi died. as conrad saw it, the police rushed to judgment, began precisely when officers first rushed through his front door. >> they felt ...

Plan, you'd have to understand i won the election and promised safety for the american people and part of that promise was a wall at the southern border. elections have consequences. what do you think. they certainly have consequences and that's really where we are today with the democrats taking over control of the house of representatives, but the previous two years, the republicans had total control of the entire government, the house and senate and the obviously the presidency. during that period of time, the wall was not a major issue. certainly not a 5.7 billion dollar demand for money t...

And disproportionately so and they want him out of there and the reform measures to stop. this is the ninth straight weekend that we've seen this. we'll keep it eye on it for you. they're in the streets in washington d.c., nothing being done at all. a government shutdown that tied a record-- broke and record established back in 1995. at the time republicans and the clinton administration going at it over spending. the guy at the epicenter of that and guy who became house majority leader tom delay joins us now. what do you make of the fact of this shutdown and no budging and it could go on quit...

Is a u.s. congressman, his twin brother. again, this family has a lot of support and name recognition here in the lonestar state, and he's been travelling around trying to gauge the american perception, and so, this big announcement here just one of the latest people to run for the democratic presidential race in 2020. neil, i think it is pretty safe to say, as you're alluding to off the top, that it could be quite a packed field before it's all said and done. back to you. neil: that's an understatement, my friend. casey, thank you very, very much. at 44, again, castro would be the youngest en...