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>> according to giuliani -- >> if the september 1st is the date, one way or another, the subpoena is off the table. either that means he agrees to do an interview or bob mueller agrees not to subpoena him but there's no way if the subpoena happens it's going to be -- >> couldn't mueller be telling giuliani this september 1st date in order to get the president in for an interview sooner than later? >> i do think that's part of it. >> it would be to the president's advantage to wrap this up. >> and to mueller's. >> and mueller's, if he had litigation risk, he has the better of the argument but i...

Saying the same thing about the watergate investigation. i think that sort of gives you a sense of how that comment has been received. this investigation could drag on for years. special prosecutor investigations are notorious for becoming wide-ranging, often will end up charging people for things that are somewhat far afield from where the investigation began. so at this point it's really anybody's guess how long this whole affair is going to take. >> a lot of people comparing this to nixon in that he took a foreign trip as well after this controversy blew up, but it didn't necessarily work f...