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Couldn't pass it. but these clouds change very quickly. by the time you went over the cloud, knowing where the top was, the top could be climbing at a rate quicker than you are. >> let's stay with that a second, hoy badly, i think so many of us that fly, it makes us nervous when we experience that turbulence when there is a thunderstorm or something in the area that, bad weather, how bad does it have to get and could a thunderstorm bring down an airplane in. >> it's extremely rare. i've only done one investigation in which it brought it down. it was a much smaller aircraft much more susceptibl...

Democrats. but instead it looks as though with the opposition of these outside groups on the right that boehner won't even be able to get it out of the house. >> okay. juan. >> so i think what you just heard described is a war within the republican ranks. and the idea that you have these outside groups putting pressure on boehner again is evidence. you know, john boehner as attractive a man and interesting man as he is is not really in charge here and exercising power. he can't get his troops in line as the speaker e eric cantor, the whip, can't get them in that second position. so what you ha...

Vest wearing people said let's restore obama -- >> republicans have done less to change the -- to settle the law of the land is the phrase we've heard over and over again than the president of the united states has who doesn't treat it as the law of land, he treats it as a menu where he picks and chooses what he weighs and applies. >> we're going to continue this discussion to talk about the debt ceiling and the payments that have to be made in coming days. we'll continue right after a short time-out.

Okay, rich, what do you think? >> well, quite a day in the house. the leadership initially in the morning and early afternoon had a package that they thought they could pass, turned out they couldn't pass it. they come up with a new package, which is the one that they now appear not to have the votes for that was really just stripped down when you got down to it to clean temporary debt ceiling increase and clean temporary cr with a so-called bitter amendment on top of it. >> explain that, the cr would fund until december 15th, and then the bitter amendment dealt with obama care in that all con...

Default on the full faith and credit of the united states of america. that is by design that is their intention, make no mistake about that. >> the house republican leadership's plan that is now out and people can take a look at it, it's a plan to advance an extreme piece of legislation. and it's nothing more than a blatant attack on bipartisanship. >> reporter: key senate republicans said reid and the democrats could not afford to reject the house gop plan without giving it consideration. >> by dismissing he's obviously saying again he doesn't want to negotiate. i don't think that's a reasona...