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Just on winning the triple crown. it's sort of traditional the way they ran the horse. >> the family that owns the horse he was quoted as saying, take your time, let the horse bring you to the race. i was surprised. one trainer specifically there at the kentucky derby that had five entrants. 26% of the field. >> he had a good shot. very confusing. you would think if you have five different horses, what do you tell which one. it turned out none of them did very well. >> heather: good for orb. moving on, fourth time in five seasons, best basketball player in the world, lebron james, do you agree...

Yes, but here is the one you thing i disagree with the defense lawyer. he said to the jury, you don't convict a liar for this crime of premeditation. i respectfully disagree. once you put that defendant on the witness stand, then credibility, lies come into play. from the beginning she said intruders came in. if you take it from there, why would you ever believe this defendant about anything. >> gregg: but she claims her excuse, well i had ptsd and lost my memory. kirsten, the long shot here is self-defense because remember, she claims that in a fit of fury he attacked her and she thought she ...

Situation would have reasonably believed that immediate, imminent actual danger. actual danger may not be necessary. a long shot but she could walk, couldn't she? >> theoretically, yes. i think it's a long shot. frankly her attorney acknowledges this, in closing they back off, it wasn't self-defense what we have is manslaughter. i think by making that argument and by as bob mentioned before her lack of credibility, they have really sort of painted themselves in a corner as far as the self-defense. >> gregg: we will wait and see. good to see you both. >> heather: still to come. orb showing off ...

Actions and feelings, and that's how we learn to talk. your brain, your arm actually has a subconscious will to move. what happens here is that she says the malady that the sister has and begins to imitate it subconsciously, and that's why she gets the twitching, she has pain in the same arm that she had. it's not that farfetched. patti ann: that's actually interesting when you put all that science behind it. still, one of her symptoms is this twitching in the same eye that her sister lost. you know, an eye twitch can be the result of stress. i mean, couldn't she just be so distraught over see...

Lot of people are hurting and are not feeling all of those gains that have been put in place over many years, but if you compare where we are today to ten years ago, let's say, or twenty years ago, you see that that progress continues. now, compared to three or four years ago, obviously, that's not necessarily the case. >> but you think in a state like this, people take more pleasure in the simple things, the creature comforts over luxury, like sitting together as a family watching tv. you don't take it for granted. >> that's clearly one of the things that happened over the last few years. the...