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The gop descended into a party that questions things like the president's birth certificate and his college grades. after the death of bin laden the other day, republicans get more serious. is this their defining moment as they prepare for 2012? jonathan martin is a great reporter on politics, especially, and michael is an msnbc political analyst and national syndicated radio host. and more to the point, you have been the guy chasing -- who is that guy in lesmis who kept chasing the guy and couldn't stop? >> john val jean. >> you have not stopped. no, you were the guy that wouldn't stop chasin...

Michael smirconish is an msnbc political analyst and national syndicated radio host. and more to the point, you have been the guy chasing -- who is that guy in "les mis" who kept chasing the guy and couldn't stop? >> john valjean. >> you have not stopped. no, you were the guy that wouldn't stop chasing him. jovert. jovert. you have been pushing this issue, as all americans have their soul, but why have you been on the war path on this one issue? how much interviews have you had with the president? >> five. >> and in every one of them, you have talked about this. >> every one. >> and what have ...

If you panic, you die. >> i think it helped we were together. there were moments when i was -- i couldn't stop crying and i felt so weak and i tried to sort of muffle it and i was trying not to cry. you know, inevitably one of them was sitting next to me and would say, there are people who love you, we're going to get out of this. so it's very helpful to have colleagues with you. we were so lucky that we were together. >> early on, you didn't know if anyone knew where you were, but it's got to help to know i work for an organization that has resources that will be looking for us. >> we hoped s...

Though. >> right. >> i wouldn't hang out with you you ever. >> you are drunk right now, aren't you? >> i'm a little bit drunk. >> morgan murphy. >> let me read a passage from lucy's story. i was making poor decisions. once i was tipsy, i couldn't stop. anything of this ringing a bell. >> nothing rings a bell, andy because of brain damage due to excessive alcohol abuse. i'm reminded of the poet john berryman who once said. >> no, you are not. >> yes, i you am reminded of him just now from memory. he once said something has been said of sobriety but not much. i'm also reminded of my single uncle...

Together. there were moments when i was -- i couldn't stop crying and i felt so weak and i tried to sort of muffle it and i was trying not to cry. you know, inevitably one of them would say, there are people who love you, we're going to get out of this. so it's very helpful to have colleagues with you. we were so lucky that we were together. >> you had a driver, mohammed, who was stopped with you. you're not sure what happened to him. you think you may have seen his body? >> it's hard to say. i'll tell you what i did see. obviously, it was -- i was in sort of semi shock. this is in the first s...