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Would've loved this kind of access, like having the keys to the kingdom. >> i want to dig into one part of "the new york times" article. allison touched on it. i want to pop it up on the screen because it is critical to this whole conversation. mr. mcgahn and his lawyer could not understand why mr. trump was so willing to allow mr. mcgahn to speak freely to the special counsel to take the blame for any possible legal access of obstruction. they devise their own strategy to do as much as possible to cooperate and demonstrate they did nothing wrong. if that turns out to be true in fact cannot in...

He gave mcgahn permission to cooperate because he has nothing to hide. if you were his attorney would not agree with that strategy? >> well, this was the presidents of moyer before jay sekulow and rudy giuliani came on to work with the president with regard to the special counsel investigation. his earlier attorneys, john dowd, ty cobb developed a strategy and told the president he should waive all this privilege is and allow the white house counsel and it looks like we believe "the new york times" reporting any spend 30 hours talking to robert mueller in the special counsel team. this was rea...

"the new york times" that they stand by the support of the pulitzer prize-winning journalist who wrote it. the investigation confirmed to fox news that spoke to the muller team at length on three different occasions. the report in "the new york times" includes a lot of detail about the meetings and the strategy and thinking surrounding it. the interview added up to more than three hours and gave a clear view of the president's most intimate moments with his lawyers. moments like a firing of james comey, the former fbi are. he allowed all others to testify the times reporting doesn't contradict...

Don't know. he wants to make sure that he survives the trump administration and not so interesting about what happens with mueller. >> it's amazing the historical figures resurfacing. allusions to mccarthyism, watergate. john dean himself treating about this vein i doubt the president has any idea what he is told mueller. also nixon knew i was meeting with prosecutors because i told him. however, he didn't think i would tell them the truth. this brings up an important point. has been shifted in terms of the president strategy, his legal strategy and if so if it has shifted, as their reason for...

Mr. mcgann and his team. he feared that mr. trump was setting up mr. mcgann to take the blame for any possible legal acts of destruction and devise their own strategy to do as much as possible. rudy giuliani had this to say on "sunday morning futures." >> he said everything was -- >> back in january he went on the grand jury the grand jury and awareness to .5 the president committed a crime. he is going to sit there for the next six months working for the president who committed a crime. it is absurd. >> comes from an outside counsel with allegations of apprehensions about mcgahn cooperations ...