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Brought up to me. i think this is perhaps as off putting to kislyak as it is to you and me. goes so far out of the norm that he was probably shocked by the request as well. >> i take it this is unprecedented, general, that there are no such side arrangements for any particular nation where an administration sets up a back channel like this going through that organ of the state as a means of having dialogue. >> this is off the map, michael. i know of no other experience like this in our history, certainly within my life experience. but michael, one additional footnote to a sub plot you and i ha...

He was probably shocked by the request as well. >> i take it this is unprecedented, general, that there are no such side arrangements for any particular nation where an administration sets up a back channel like this going through that organ of the state as a means of having dialogue. >> this is off the map, michael. i know of no other experience like this in our history, certainly within my life experience. but michael, one additional footnote to a sub plot you and i have talked about in previous exchanges. let's assume. >> please. >> for a moment that communication intercepted, and let's ass...

Michael, what degree of suspicion of the existing government, what degree of contempt for the administration they were replacing, would be required. again, to think this was acceptable course of action. it says an awful lot about the campaign, michael. says an awful lot about us as a society, that we could actually harbor those kinds of feelings that the organs of the state would be used by my predecessor to come after me or to intercept my communications or to disrupt my administration in a way that made it seem legitimate to me to use the secure communications facilities of a foreign power. ...

>> it's an open question, i think it's also a question that because of some of the reports it's inappropriate to comment on. kelly: we go to garrett who is live in washington. what other questions do we expect sessions to face on tuesday? >> a lot of questions will revolve around issues raised by james comey in his testimony about jeff sessions. not only have there been reports of another undisclosed meeting with russia but he indicated he couldn't trust the attorney general and that sessions didn't do anything when they raise concern about the president meeting with him alone. those are some ...

With naivete, and that's not particularly comforting for me. what manner of ignorance, chaos, hubris, suspicion, contempt, would you have to have to think that doing this with the russian ambassador was a good or appropriate idea? so, again, naivete out, doesn't make me feel good about many things. >> some will read this as another sign of potential collusion. i get a more benign explanation, but not in my view defensible, is the idea the incoming trump administration felt they couldn't trust the obama administration, the intel community or both, and therefore thought they had to go this direc...