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Is the country preparing for? >> i think from a counter intelligence perspective, you have to look at what russia has done is a failure across the board. their military operation in ukraine is in shambles, they're retreating, taking tremendous losses as they have done that. in europe they're facing a reunited nato alliance, something that had been under significant stress during the trump administration, has seen the united states and our european allies come together, and then i think certainly in terms of the sway that seems to have taken root in a lot of places within the u.s. political dis...

President said which is it's okay to listen. it's okay to listen if you're offered some as he called it research oppo from a foreign nation. here's what's wrong with a counter intelligence perspective. the moment you agree to sit down and listen, the moment they agree to sit down at that trump tower and listen to dirt being offered on hillary clinton, they are owned by that foreign power. that is the recruitment operation. you don't have to accept it. you don't have to receive it. yes, you've just cited the law and those are statutory elements for a crime. on the counter investigation side the...

Attitude he seems to have towards vladimir putin. you're the former cia chief of operations in russia. why do you think -- what's your speculation? why do you think he is this way? >> yeah. you know, that is tough one, especially from a counter intelligence perspective. before helsinki i was willing to say, look, this is -- this president's got a whack job style. approaches russia from an i imagine a very -- not ill advised position and probably getting a good advice and doing whatever he wants. when i saw him step out on that stage with vladimir putin, and denigrate the u.s. intelligence serv...

>> i did not. >> does any of the behavior i described concern you from a counter intelligence perspective? >> tremendously. >> why? >> because it indicates a set of standards and requests insertding themselves into our electoral process, indicate a willingness to engage in conversation or dialogue about how to do that. it potentially implicates a variety of laws. without getting into what has or has not been done investigati investigatively -- >> thank you. i yield back. >> the chair recognizes the gentleman from north carolina, mr. meadows for five minutes. >> i think earlier your testimony t...

Inincriminate hillary in her dealings with russia and be very useful to your father. and he says that this obviously very high level and sensitive information but it is part of russia and its government support for mr. trump. mr. strzok, without commenting specifically on these e-mails, or this instance, can you explain generally from a counter intelligence perspective why it would be concerning, that high-level campaign aides would be meeting with a representative from a hostile foreign government? what would be the rusks? >> well, again, not relating it to any particular event, i think that ...