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Disturbing isis news. successfully recruiting americans to wage jihad. now secretary of homeland security jeh johnson saying how many americans are fighting with this brutal terror group. >> the last number that i saw& attempted to leave is 180. but i believe the number, the publicly disclosed number is higher now. it's probably around is 200. i'm not sure of the exact number. there is a counter message that is being developed. he i believe that that message is being developed. but it needs a broader platform. >> now that question was from my colleague, catherine herridge. now, it's not clear ...

Disturbing isis news. successfully recruiting americans to wage jihad. now secretary of homeland security jeh johnson saying how many americans are fighting with this brutal terror group. >> the last number that i saw& attempted to leave is 180. but i believe the number, the publicly disclosed number is higher now. it's probably around is 200. i'm not sure of the exact number. there is a counter message that is being developed. he i believe that that message is being developed. but it needs a broader platform. >> now that question was from my colleague, catherine herridge. now, it's not clear ...

To stop being shocked and focus on what we do to contain and eliminate them. >> and david some of the stuff abby told us is because a defector has come out and told us about the inside focus, that mohammed emwazi was chosen but the defector said not that would scare the west but send a message to potential sympathizers in the west saying there is room for you here you can come join us and get a good position which is horrifying and disgusting but reminds us wednesday again that isis' marketing, here in the west it is really good and thoughtful and our counter-message is so far really lame. >> ...

It will make us safer, at least because we're not going to be afraid of something that really can't hurt this country. it's really our reaction to isis and to terror that can hurt us. not the terrorists themselves. >> now evan coleman, clearly the islamic state can take a joke, right? there's nothing, come on. what's -- >> look, i'm sure that they find this terribly amusing. i take this in a slightly different way. i think this is poking fun at our counter message. anyone who looks at this and condemns snl for poking fun at this, i ask them, the fact that we haven't been able to develop a coun...

should become a punch line and that will hurt recruiting. it will make us safer, at least because we're not going to be afraid of something that really can't hurt this country. it's really our reaction to isis and to terror that can hurt us. not the terrorists themselves. >> now evan coleman, clearly the islamic state can take a joke right? there's nothing, come on. what's -- >> look i'm sure that they find this terribly amusing. i take this in a slightly different way. i think this is poking fun at our counter message. anyone who looks at this and condemns snl for poking fun at this, i ask...