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Skeptical at best, probably more negative than i even thought going into this conversation do you think this relationship with russia right now is somehow beyond repair? look, i think we re at a very difficult spot with the russians right now but reality is if we take a broader look at the relationship we re still cooperating on a lot of important stuff. it tend to be most effective, to be quite frank between moskow and washington when it is below the radar. i mean by that, intelligence sharing, counterterrorism operations, counter narcotics operations the simple fact is given the relationship with pakistan today it is not in great shape of the it is only the northern distribution network which is the russian transit route that lets us supply our troops in afghanistan and ultimately get those folks safely out of afghanistan. so i think the cooperation has got to continue but my colleagues are exactly right. we have serious differences of interests. we re going to have to figure out a ....