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And it's curious why robert mueller would accept that. and one reason would be he can pin trump down to his story. if then robert mueller could disprove with evidence and have donald trump on perjury. >> whoever and whatever coming out ot report. expect a white house rebutle. >> they prepared a counter report. what they mean is all the ways in which they can attack the investigation. the text between the fbi agent and the the agent he was having affair. where they showed bias. they want to summarize it and argue the investigation is illegitimate. that plays to their base. he creates an atmosph...

Also their counter report would include their interpretation of the law. what is the president's constitutional authority to fire the fbi director, for example? so that's what could be in there, but that's really sort of one of the pieces of their response to all this. and that only is at the very end when and if mueller's report actually gets made public. i think tom laid this out very well, that under the special counsel regulation tz, this is supposed to be a confidential report given to the attorney general full stop, some people would interpret it. the attorney general does not have to tu...

You're going to see that if there isn't specific criminal activity, that violates a u.s. statute, the u.s. criminal code, we might not see that information wlorhether or not w think that behavior is unseemly, whether or not we think it's immoral. whatever we think it is, it may not violate a crime and we may not see that detailed a report. >> all right, shannon, i believe it was rudy giuliani i think told "usa today" they are working on a counter report. >> yes. >> how do you put together a counter report when you haven't seen the initial report? >> well, they've actually been working on this ...

Joining me now, nbc news white house correspondent, kelly o'donnell, nbc news senior investigatives producer, anna schecter. "washington post" national security reporter, matt z zaptowski, ben willis, also an nbc legal analyst. and former trump campaign adviser, sam nunberg. we've got a lot of folks and a lot of news. we'll tripe to get to all of it. kelly, first to you. with news that the special counsel's office is wrapping things up, it has now been reported widely by multiple news outlets, what is the white house doing in preparation for it? >> well, we can imagine a couple of things. that...

Does it change the level of concern they have about the mueller investigation? because i have to tell you when i speak to people inside the white house they honestly act like they don't have a care in the world, and it blows my mind. >> well, there is a lot of people in the white house who are just battle tested at this point and nothing shakes them. they have been under this pressure of this investigation and every sort of drama of the day for two years now. so, yeah, you get a lot of shrugs at this point. but as far as barr coming in, there are a lot of people happy the president will have a...