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Autopsiy offices all over the country. they wrote about something as simple as not being able to pay for an informant's phone card. the idea we would burn a source, burn a line of information on the counterintel side, or the counterterrorist side, over a phone card that we can no longer pay for, seems to be a stain on american credibility. would you agree with that assessment and would you put the blame squarely on the president? >> so, first, not only our allies are looking at this saying, what gives with this? and i'm sure they're feeling for our intelligence community, but i'm even far more...

And on the counterintel side, i assume a lot of informants rely on the financial piece of that partnership. >> you know, nicolle, i'll never forget as a very young supervisor at headquarters getting called up to the assistant director's office and it was a very sensitive clo closed-door meeting about the case. i turn around to walk out, i see a sign posted on the back of his office door, i'll never forget it. it said "america is at peace because the fbi is at war." and that was the mentality then and it's the mentality now. american people need to understand the fbi goes to battle on our stree...