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Counterintelligence agents are liable to take outrageous chances and measures that you wouldn't expect criminal investigators to take because they don't expect their work is ever going to be checked. it's never going to be taken apart by defense lawyers. it's never going to be in a public courtroom, so they go about their business with a little bit of an edge that they just don't think what they're doing is ever going to be reviewed. if you put on that the overlay that everybody here was ripe dead certain that hillary clinton was going to win the election, and this was never, ever going to be ...

You've seen the worst and the best, devin nunes comes under attack all the time. he's led the house intelligence committee. he helped unmask the unmasking that was taking place. he's plowing into a lot of. this a lot of the preemptive leaks like "the new york times" because nunes and others are on the tail of some of these folks. what do you have to say about devin nunes in all of this? >> i really think he's been heroic, and it's been very brave, i think, to go to a place where you had to know you were going to take flack from very powerful, very entrenched institutions and interests. i think...

Inspector general will look into the president's accusations. you tweeted this, perfect response from republican rod rosenstein to trump, rod rosenstein knows fbi counterintelligence agents were doing their duty and is not afraid of any inquiry. but by agreeing to have the inspector general expand his investigation is rosenstein following the president's order? >> yes, wolf rosenstein is, but i think that was a perfect response to the president's demands. i have no problem with the inspector general expanding his investigation, because it's going to show this was a counterintelligence investig...

Ago. i met weissman working on the enron investigation. then you have all kinds of people drawn from various ranks of the fbi, counterintelligence agents, business fraud agents, people who are computer specialists, people that deal with international money laundering issues. really a wide variety of people with a lot of different backgrounds, some of them coming from business, some of them coming from even the movie business, believe it or not. >> brian, forgive me for skipping around. also forgive me for taking an eye off the journalism business job billboard this week. i got your publication...

Think has really gotten lost here. so what i tried 20 do in a story this week is profile a number of individuals that have been put onto this team helping mueller conduct this investigation. a number of them have longstanding ties to some of the other prosecutors on mueller's team, such as andrew weissman, one of the top fbi agents who is handling this investigation, has been working almost 20 years ago. i met weissman working on the enron investigation. then you have all kinds of people drawn from various ranks of the fbi, counterintelligence agents, business fraud agents, people who are comp...