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Interesting. what do you mean by that? >> there's a lot of talk about general flynn and the group he met that was convening there. that group was shut down because in the uk they thought that was being used as an influence factor by the russian government. they were kind of out in front of this. what's really interesting in all of this if you look for this russia investigation, the battleground for influence was happening in europe. you have papadopoulos, page, these people showing up in europe and so when we hear about the source and the sourcing that was there, the fbi was trying to explore ...

Committing treason against one's country frequently takes place in an unwitting fashion in the early stages. >> what role do you believe the intelligence community should play when you first see it? if you see that there is somebody that could be compromised and they don't know it, do you go and warn these folks? do you say, hey, be careful with this relationship? or do you -- what is that line there? isn't there a point where you want to warn an american, hey, don't do business with them? >> there are a lot of unique circumstances that will determine how we proceed. if we believe that the rus...

We have an obligation, because of our very important counterintelligence responsibilities, to make sure the fbi is informed about all of these possibly suspicious counterintelligence concerns that we have. >> when you were collecting this data at the time, and you were raising alarm bells, we now know, back in, i believe it's june now of 2016, a little bit before the fbi was told. why is it in hindsight it seem that it took awhile for the rest of the intelligence community to come around to your assessment? >> we were working very closely with the fbi as well as with nsa. as you can understand...

The election. at the conclusion of that briefing, i remained alone with the president-elect to brief him on some personally sensitive aspects of the information assembled during the assessment. the ic leadership thought it important for a variety of reasons to alert the incoming president to the existence of this material, even though it was salacious and unverified. among those reasons were, one, we knew the media was about to publicly report the material and we believed the ic should not keep knowledge of the material and it's imminent release from the president-elect and two, the two extent...

Leaders to brief him and his new national security team on the findings of an ic assessment concerning russian efforts to interfere in the election. at the conclusion of that briefing, i remained alone with the president-elect to brief him on some personally sensitive aspects of the information assembled during the assessment. the ic leadership thought it important for a variety of reasons to alert the incoming president to the existence of this material, even though it was salacious and unverified. among those reasons were, one, we knew the media was about to publicly report the material and ...