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It's called the 11th hour. it is the most serious news program. up malcolm nance identifies himself as a 35 year veteran of counterintelligence work. whatever that means. his most recent book is called the plot to pack america. the second man you are about to see is brian williams who of course needs no introduction. he was an anchor of the nbc nightly news when that meant something. he is widely regarded as a goodn guy by the people who know him and he is in washington thought of as one of the smartest people in the news business. the point is, these are not kooks on late-night radio, they ar...

Some of those criminal acts. nothing here that took place with respect to the hiring of fusion gps, which is an independent private research firm that campaigns contract with all the time, nothing rises to the level of donald trump taking a meet with an authorized representative of the russian government for the purposes of trying to help donald trump's campaign by way of illegal acts. >> but brian fallon, in july, to our colleague, anderson cooper, you said, quote, there's a difference between going out and hiring opposition firms that work in the united states of america and going on and sol...

Part of his explanation was the opposition research happens. he was out and said one thing and then when this happened he said another thing today. take a look. >> there's a difference between going out and hiring opposition of these that work in the united states of america and going out and soliciting information from a foreign national. >> opposition research have another time. >> christopher steele compiled this dossier. he was a foreign national. >> christopher steele's actions, it's akin to counterintelligence work. he was not being handed things by the russians. otherwise we would proba...

Took the points that we had from the fbi, boil that down and we came up with about 27 subjects. >> i now knew i had my work can cut out for me. >> you feel nervous? >> absolutely. i go down and see my colleague in the personal security review section, pass the list of 27 names. i said, barbara, you can get met security files on all 27 of these people. you get the files in your name, and then i go to another office with no window, i didn't want anybody to see what i was doing. >> how many pages is one person's file? >> hundreds. hundreds of pieces of paper. it's mind numbing. then you had to re...

Page after page and this is the reality of counterintelligence work. i've never jumped out of a plane, never driven an aston martin. that's not counterintelligence. that's james bond. real counterintelligence agents sit in front of a screen, read files and interview people. and your eyes start to strain and get discouraged. and then i open up file 13. my heart was racing. there's no other way to describe it. every piece of the matrix fit like a glove. it was kendall meyers. >> kendall best fit everything we were looking at and for robert and i it was that good feeling like we think we found th...