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That there were diminishing returns in what we could accomplish militarily in afghanistan. and i think also throughout the obama years we saw successes in the counterterrorism side of the mission-s most notably the removal of osama bin laden, but we saw the continued grinding problem of a persistent taliban threat, of corruption in the afghan government, and the lack of a formula that could coalesce a stable centralized government. and i think what he's saying, and i think he made a very strong and powerful case for it, is that staying for one year or five years was not going to achieve that g...

Out a couple thousand interpreters and americans and that's it or do they stay there and secure that airport and take out women who started human rights organizations, people who are at risk of of being killed by the taliban? but what's interesting, nicolle, here, is part of the audience for this speech is also the taliban. frankly they're going to be watching in afghanistan in the coming months are they going to invite in terrorist organizations to potentially have a safe haven that we would have to deal with militarily? are they going to carry out reprisal killings against people who worked ...

Of scrutiny, what is your suspicious about what happens in a regular fisa application or renewal process? ifal the measure people hear th and anyeo say this can happen against the campaign, what happens in an ordinary fisa case? >> that is why we started a new review and audit to look at others not only on the intel side, but on the counterterrorism side and on u.s. persons. what else iss. going on there. we can't -- we want to be fair, we don't want to do it just on this, but for the reasons that you indicated, if it is happening here, what is going on elsewhere. >> i want to sum prize someth...

Because you were part of the national security council, i believe from 2017 to 2018. how would you actually describe how the trump administration's calculation is with iran, at least from a strategy standpoint? what are they betting on? >> sure. so, i came into the administration, or at least the national security council, in 2017 on the counterterrorism side. so, i was not part of the middle east sort of side or the team that ran the middle east strategy to include the iran strategy. but from what i recall at that time, the administration wanted to increase pressure on iran in a different way...

There's still the issue whether there are other packages out there. until we get clarity on that everyone has to maintain a sense of heightened vigilance. >> bill: you did a lot of this work from new york city. from an investigative standpoint when you consider he had two roommates, what are they doing now behind the scenes? >> i worked on the counterterrorism side and they'd be speaking to anyone around the individual to get a sense as to whether, first of all, they were involved in some way so there's the possibility of criminal jeopardy for some of the people they'll be talking to and then ...