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Manafort says, how do we use this to get hold? so, clearly, on his mind, the idea of leveraging his access to trump to solve this goodness problem that he had. >> and then he persisted in that, suggesting at one point, i would provide him private briefings on the state of the campaign. >> working for trump, manafort showed his talents for counting delegates and convention planning. >> we're going to bwin. we're going to win before clinton. >> you're confident you're going to win? >> i wouldn't be saying it if i wasn't. >> in may, offered the job of campaign chairman. his right hand man, rick g...

Now in this position of influence. >> and there's this phrase where manafort says how do we use this to get whole. he was clearly on his mind. the idea of leveraging his access to trump. to solve this business problem he had. >> he persists in that suggesting at one point tell him i can provide him private briefings on this state of the campaign. >> working for trump, manafort showed talents for counting delegates and convention planning. >> we're going to win. before the first bell. before cleveland. >> you're confident you'll win before cleveland? >> i wouldn't be saying it. >> in may he was...

Trump trying to find ways to say to paul manafort, you know, just please, you know, kind of help me out here. don't give the prosecutors anything that can help them get me. >> yeah. obviously, trump could have been promising him a pardon like he promised -- he gave to joe arpaio and efforts to help and maybe to fire comey early on in this. we don't know. what we do know is that one of the real firewalls that trump tried to build between himself and this investigation, that they have been building over several months, manafort may have been bad but he is no longer part of the world, that firewa...

Don't give the prosecutors anything that can help them get me. >> yeah. obviously, trump could have been promising him a pardon like he promised -- he gave to joe arpaio and efforts to help and maybe to fire comey early on in this. we don't know. what we do know is that one of the real firewalls that trump tried to build between himself and this investigation, that they have been building over several months, manafort may have been bad but he is no longer part of the world, that firewall is blown wide open tonight and the fact he was in touch with the president through the rest of the campaign...

I guarantee you, mitt romney -- and "the times" talked about this. they are obsessed on. this they know it's their new reality. they know it will be an ugly 60 days between utah and tampa, and they understand this is very possible. if rick santorum and newt gingrich and these guys chop up the votes enough, this is very -- >> ironically this is probably where mitt romney is at his best as a candidate, which is someone who is prepared, who knows the arcane rules of the process and can count delegates. we have seen time and again rick santorum has a very difficult time getting on ballots, countin...