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When it disappears, i think it will weaken the government tremendously because so many people, it's the cult of fidel. the same way it was the cult of chavez and we have seen meduro is nowhere near as capable of keeping that government under control in venezuela and let's face it. raul castro is pretty elderly himself. they're both in their 80s. >> dan, how hard is it for president obama to move forward this? i mean, you have marco rubio saying he'll block funding for cuban embassy and hold up an ambassador role. >> i think it's important to disassociate those two things. the u.s. intersection...

Pope john paul ii called for cuba to be open to the world and the world to be open to cuba. and that was a very clear signal to both cuba and the united states to work on this. and, you know, the pope is really responding to the concerns of the bishops in cuba who would like to see diplomatic relations restored and especially to see the embargo ended. >> father thomas, thank you very much for being on. >> you're welcome. coming up on breaking news tonight, u.s. investigators telling cnn that north korea is responsible for the hacking attack on sony. this is after the company cancelled the re...

Or willingness of this regime by raul castro to really effect change towards democracy? >> people in cuba still really respect and revere almost fidel castro but there's no doubt under raul's presidency, there have been a lot of openness and reforms implemented in cuba, particularly, economic in nature. a lot of things are permitted in cuba now that were not permitted as long as fidel was in office. so i think with raul, this is what he told me personally and all the visitors is he's looking for an opportunity to open up cuba step by step. i think that's what we have to expect. >> as you said,...

U.s., allowed soviet missiles on the soil causing panic. u2 spy plane spotted built by the soviet union. the showdown of the united nations, u.s. demanded their removal. >> it will be the policy of this nation to regard any nuclear missile, launch from cuba or against any nation in the western hemisphere as an attack. >> reporter: the soviet union blinked and the missiles were removed. almost two decades later in 1980, the cuban government allowed people to leave the country without a permit. nearly 125,000 cubans fled the island and arrived by boat 90 miles away in florida. at first, the u.s....

People in the u.s. congress on both parties and they stick together when it comes to this because it is so important to the first hand victims that they represent. >> dan, what do you say? you serve in the obama white house. what do you say to the charges this is essentially rewarding bad behavior, an oppressive regime? >> a failure in reaching goals isn't a reward to anybody. continuing the policy would have been a reward to those who it benefits. this is the u.s. being more relevant in the future of cuba and the people more relevant in the future of cuba. one thing i agree with marco rubio w...