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In 2024. they were not going to certify the results of the election unless the republican presidential candidate won. that was what they were planning to do. that would have thrown the 2024 election into complete chaos. it would have gone to the house of representatives. and in the house of representatives under the constitution, each state has one vote, so republicans, whether trump or desantis, would have been elected president even if you got fewer votes. that was the plan, the voters foiled the plan and all of those coup plotters running for secretary of state lost. all of them, in battleg...

Those coup plotters running for secretary of state lost. all of them, in battleground states, so we are averted a coup in 2024 with these returns, and if you look at it, the voters were so discerning that even in states where they voted for republican governor like in nevada or were they gave 100,000 more votes to the candidate for governor then they did for secretary of state, like in michigan, they understood that these election deniers running for secretary of state had to be defeated to protect our democracy. this is all kudos to the american voter who showed great discernment and great un...

The american people foils the coup plotters, can you talk about the impacts that the january six hearing had on the american psyche? i remember the conversation, was it did not move the needle. it has not convinced anybody. the idea that it is, where those here is a big piece of what you're talking about? >> you have to separate out who the hearings were directed towards, ultimately. there were people like all of, us and msnbc viewers. democratic party activists. the average voter who is going about making a, living not really paying attention to anything until after labor day and -- inflation...

That was the plan, the voters foiled the plan and all of those coup plotters running for secretary of state lost. all of them, in battleground states, so we are averted a coup in 2024 with these returns, and if you look at it, the voters were so discerning that even in states where they voted for republican governor like in nevada or where they gave 100,000 more votes to the candidate for governor then they did for secretary of state, like in michigan, they understood that these election deniers running for secretary of state had to be defeated to protect our democracy. this is all kudos to th...

Prison and killed. you and your children will die in prison. that evidence -- very same day. we got to see several emails that john eastman was recently ordered to turn over to the january 6th committee. last month, the federal judge ruled those emails contained evidence of possible criminal activity, about therefore not covered by eastman's claims of attorney client privilege. the emails show that eastman and some of his fellow coup plotters were trying to tee up an emergency appeal of the election results in georgia that would go before a supreme court justice -- clarence thomas, another -- ...