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Message. and that is what he does in terms of sending signals to people. about when he will do. does anyone have a doubt that, if god forbid, he were to get back into office, that he would go ahead and pardon all the january 6th insurrectionists and coup plotters? of course he would. so, he is sending that signal as to precisely what he would do. just as he said, if you want to kick your country, you have to fight like hell. when fraud is involved, you are allowed to use separate rules. this stuff is happening in broad daylight and i keep saying, if you rob a bank in broad daylight, you are st...

A target. she has been really, you know, following an interesting pattern the last four or five years in which she tried largely not to be too public, not to present herself as a convenient target for her opponents, but obviously she has decided this is a time she can come out and begin to play a leadership role at a time when the midterm elections will be so crucial for democrats and republicans this fall. >> and i think, susan page, she has made the right decision. if you are going to go in and do it, you don't do it halfway. you go out and you be aggressive. i thought the part of her speech...

Election. the washington post is also saying that mark meadows from coup plotters, an attorney well push trump's big lie. and who is now on that infamous phone call when trump tried to bully georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger into finding the votes needed to flip the state. >> you have all these different people that voted but they don't live -- anymore what was that number it was a pretty good number [inaudible] to >> the register that registered out of state, they said that they had a date moved from georgia, they register to vote out of, state and then it's like 4500. i don't hav...

After me again lately in case might have noticed. it is funny. the more trouble trump gets into the wilder the charges and conspiracy theories about me seem to get. so now his accountants have fired him and investigations draw closer to him, and right on cue the notice machine gets turned up, doesn't it? fox leads the charge with accusations against me, counting on their audience to fall for it again. and as an aside, they're getting awfully close to actual malice in their attacks. our adversaries around the world are watching. republicans are defending coup plotters. they're curbing voting ri...

I mean, who could possibly compete with this kind ofwh inspirational, uplifting, m unifying message? >> the struggle for unity and democracy is far from over. republicans are defending coup plotters and their voting rights, we must be the defenders of liberty. not just a laboratory of democracy, but a protector of democracy. they will let polluter stress to my trash and our environment and donald trump trash our democracy, our democracy, our democracy. >> todd: i think she hasac concern about democracy. do you think, lee says she will be the protector that we really need in 2024? >> i mean it ...