Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20131216:21:27:00
They were under judicial scrutiny, but this is different. and the judge made a couple key points. i think the point he made that the government hadn't shown a real concrete effect, that the programs really had thwarted a terrorist attack was a tough point for the government. one they're going to have to do a better job of in their future pleadings. >> jamele, you guys have been working at the aclu on these cases for years. your thoughts today. >> well, i think it's a really big deal. it's a carefully reasoned decision by a bush appointee. and it's not -- i think i disagree with matt that it's ...