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Has been a big split here in terms of the mail votes, and the same-day votes. meijer was absolutely cleaning up in the mail vote. he won by more than 20 points. gibbs has been winning by double digits with the same day vote. and it looks like especially in kent county, where is grand rapids's, the same day vote has been counted up here kind of late, and has been boosting gibbs, and is now moved ahead by 1500 votes. i'm just gonna take a look here, at exactly where kent county stands. this is meyer's base. this is the biggest part of the district, and now peter meijer is about even in that dist...

Republican to a couple points in some recent polls in democrats' favor. but joe biden has remained at 38%. he has not moved in those polls. and the reason that i think a lot of these democrats are saying and some of them that i've talked to over the last couple of weeks is he has not met the moment and he's not really thrown himself into this in a large part not only on the policy side, but in the rhetorical way they wanted him to. >> one other thing also going on here is that there is a whole generation of young people, young democrats, who thought this was the world they were going inhabit a...

Because of the trump bump? do you think he would have pulled through, if, in fact, he does, without that trump bump? >> you put the numbers up. it's so close. if this ends up being a couple points one way or the other, when you look inside these polls, you see the negative numbers oz has with republican primary voters, it tells me republican primary voters have a lot of skepticism towards oz. so i would think if oz ends up winning this thing by a couple points, it could well be that trump vouching for him could make that kind of a difference just in the face of those negatives. >> we'll be wat...

Nothing left to give vladimir putin a pull-back from world war iii? >> couple points. your basic theme is right. what people call the order of battle. add up the tanks, aircraft, and it doesn't tell you a lot about the leadership or morale of troops. the beginning of the war, russians were divided. they thought they didn't have the mass force. they learned it was wrong. i think they'll be somewhat better in this phase, but i don't deny what you suggestion. the russians will once again do badly. this could, as jonathan described it, bog down as a war of attrition. i think that is more likely th...

Roof if the ladder is attached to something. i don't understand. is it really -- is it smart to start at the -- at -- by going all out with nothing left in reserve? are you saying that whatever you guys -- should it become necessary whatever you guys will impose in terms of sanctions, can't be topped? >> you have to recall -- >> because if they can be, and if there are steps that you're not going to take, then you're not starting at the top of the escalation ladder. >> a couple points. one, you have to recall what this is about and what's at stake here. if this swift, severe, and united respon...