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Criticism if democrats don't feel they can scrutinize barr before he's confirmed to be the top law enforcement officer in the united states. >> really quickly while i have you here, i want to ask you about this new washington post reporting that the white house is apparently lawyering up in a big way. 17 lawyers reportedly hired. this is according to washington post. the report goes on to say that the newly arrived white house counsel is the one doing the hiring. we know the president was having trouble finding a legal team a few weeks ago. what's changed? >> so a couple points. you're absolut...

Donald trump's isolationist vision. >> ian, while you also cite that letter says it shows an essential lack of respect by mattis for the president, you don't see this as a larger crisis on par with say bannon's departure. explain that. >>le wit well a couple points. the most important relationship the u.s. has with china, mattis has been a big player in that regard. it's been driven by secretary of state pompeo, much more effective than rexrillerson was. something worth reminding people. >> eennia, i've been speaking to folks on the ground in places like syria and afghanistan serving members o...

Tower deal, we see this kind of alignment between trump's financial interests. he wants his big building in moscow with his name on it and collusion because the questions were motive and method. so the motive would be now the russians have dirt on him because they know he's lying about his dealings. the method would be they are reaching out to him. they are trying to set up meetings with vladimir putin. so all these connections between trump world and moscow, even before the campaign gets going. >> a couple points. first, let's acknowledge that rudy giuliani has become a remarkably bad attorne...

Be tested in any court room. if they were tested fdny would be hammered like a nail, they couldn't charge a sitting president but they convict the president in the press. >> a couple points. point number one on podesta, it is a valid point but we haven't seen the full extent of the mueller investigation. they are looking into podesta and his organization and immediately after manafort was arrested they shut down because of that and that is a fact, the second thing, we heard the video recording of michael cohen talking to the president about paying off stormy daniels and lauren mcdougall. i go ...

What do you need immunity for? >> a couple points. mr. stone is in the news for invoking the fifth. but as senator klobuchar pointed out tonight on "hardball," this was an old request and not a subpoena from one committee in the senate. it's been theorized that maybe this made for a better message than actual legal statement of fact. and by the way, documents can't take the fifth. he has said no documents, no testimony. what do you make of that? >> you see right now the senate intelligence committee is continuing to move forward with its investigation. they're going to continue to seek documen...