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It was that bit that you made me think of. in other words, is the story of your life, your public life, in many ways, that you believe it's courage that counts, that despite the fact that you almost paid with your career? yes. despite the fact that you have had a lot of abuse online? the thing that keeps you going is that view, that courage counts. well, it's more that i have a duty. you keep saying that i relish this and so on. not necessarily. you know, i'd love to just be able to go — and go to the cinema loads and just have a nice life, with no—one knowing who i am. i mean this is the ...

So it says something about what people can say publicly and privately. it's very interesting you say that because in that famous speech at the conservative party conference, you ended with a quote, you remember the quote, success about from churchill, success is never final. you know, something about failure not being fatal and it's courage that counts. it was that you made me think of, in other words, is the story of your life, your public life in any way that you believe it's courage that counts, that despite the fact that you almost paid with your career... yes. despite the fact that you ha...

You remember the quote, success about from churchill, success is never final. you know, something about failure not being fatal and it's courage that counts. it was that you made me think of, in other words, is the story of your life, your public life in any way that you believe it's courage that counts, that despite the fact that you almost paid with your career. yes. despite the fact that you have had a lot of abuse online. the thing that keeps you going is that courage counts. well, it's more that i have a duty and you keep saying that i relish this and so on, not necessarily. you know, i'd...

I get so many letters saying thank you so much. i get so many private dms on twitter from teachers saying, thank goodness you're doing what you're doing, keep on going. but what's interesting is that they have to do it privately. so it says something about what people can say publicly and privately. it's very interesting you say that, because in that famous speech at the conservative party conference, you ended with a quote, you remember the quote? from churchill? success is never final. you know, something about failure not being fatal and it's courage that counts. it was that you made me thi...

That's why they are taking the reasonable line. what your going to cut and are you going to -- >> he said if you stick your neck out and say you'll cut social security and medicare you'll get killed because the other side exploits it. so, we always like to say courage counts, profiles in courage and we would like to see them do it. the minute they do it, boehner and cantor and all those guys will jump them. >> the experience of health care reform, right? the ads against health care. this is why it's a political document. neither side dealing with the long term deficit. >> let's talk about the ...