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Countries that were state sponsors of terrors. this is absolutely a time of threat where terrorism is rampant and isis has been growing a foothold around the world. >> dana: last question to you, one of the things that secretary kelly pleaded with people was to say that congress, you pass the laws, not asking you to support our people. do you have a sense thatat democrats understand that the mood in the country is too support law enforcement, to support these border patrol agents and ice agents and whatat they have to do, or do you think that democrats will want to maybe come forward and sugge...

That it's terrorism or not? >> it's up to their agencies when they decide to call it terrorism, but of course it'sm terrorism. the only question is which particular strain, and in this case, it seems like there are two. we have radical islamic terrorism, which iss "allahu akbar", and we also have black nationalism. and those two often are combined in prison where this guy spent a considerable amount of time. we don't know that's where he converted yet, and we don't know if that's where he learned this kind of hatred, but it certainly is the place where it metastasizes and this is a situation w...

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Terrorism and something that the police and the rest of our national security agencies hopefully under president trump can now take their handcuffs anl blindfolds off and take a good look at and try to keep safe from. >> dana: we know that all the victims were white. we also, as i understand, knew they were all random and anonymous to him. what else do we know about the victims tonight? >> they were all white men chosen, according to the police chief, entirely at random by kori ali muhammad.an just to pick up on his point on this man's criminal background, we know that he has a criminal record...