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Or manafort, what steps would you be willing to take as a united states senator? >> i think to say the least it would be provoking a constitutional crisis. >> a constitutional crisis. >> i believe so. >> i want to ask you about your new colleague, doug jones, do you think this is part of a blue wave or just a one-off because of the horrific allegations against roy moore? >> of course moore was not a strong candidate. that goes without saying. but if you look at this election, if you look at the election of november 7th, what you are seeing all across the country are people catching on to the f...

Going into tomorrow? >> thanks for having me on. they were standing a few feet behind where i am outside of the baptist church that is famous in american history for different reasons. democrats are typically fatalistic that won't surprise you. they say of course i'm voting for doug jones. the second thing that you heard and of course moore is going to win. what is striking is in the last few days, democrats and moderate independents and republicans are wondering and shed some of that pessimism and thinking there will be a rejection of moore.

Federal judgeships in alabama as well as the federal marshals and magistrates. so it already will happen whether or not you have -- if there is a changeover in party for second senator. so it is a moot point if you don't need moore. you need president trump, not moore, to guarantee more republican judges in alabama, however saying that of course moore would have input with the white house but the white house would be a factor and not dedeterminative because he would be junior senator from that state. >> shelby says he did not vote for roy moore. real quickly, who wins? >> i think the trend is ...