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Are indeed tapes. >> are there tapes, sir? >> youre going to be very disappointed when you hear the answer. >> if there are tapes, the house intelligence committee is demanding that the white house turn them over within two weeks, then next week, you have of course sessions testifying before the senate intelligence committee on tuesday, so as much as this white house would like the russia problem to go away, it is here to stay, at least for the next few weeks, months, if not longer. julie? julie: well, if they do have tapes, it would change everything. we will have to wait and see. >> it would...

Personally i wish he was the attorney general rather than jeff sessions. if rod rosenstein was left to investigate this russia question or appointed a special counsel to iestigate the question he would do a good job. the deputy attorney general regularly sits in the situation room with the president. 'long with others is vying for influence with the president, is asking the president to pass judgment on things, policy things the department of justice is doing on investigations and so it's difficult at the same time you're constantly interacting with the president and members of the white house...

Mind. i don't think they can expect him to say much more than that but he does appear to be helded for confirmation and i think there's a general feeling that he'd be a welcome addition to the justice department. he served under bothresident of both parties. but of course there is a lot of concern about efforts by the white house in the last couple of weeks to reach out to the fbi director, questions about how to shape the news conferenceage of the russia investigation, so there are a lot of issues as to whether the justice department can in fact really be independent especially because of the...

Without a view, he is the eyes and ears of vladimir putin in washington and getting a meeting with senator sessions would have been extremely valuable to the kremlin because of course sessions had two important pieces of access for the russians, first a senior member of the armed services committee, a critical thing for the russians, and secondly although perhaps more importantly at the time he was also somebody beginning to back candidate trump, so both would have been of critical importance and kislyak would have been very interested to meet with him. >> what we are hearing from his office i...

But the fact that he contradicted himself, said that the meeting never happened, and then didn't correct the record. that's why chafe, et cetera thinks he should recuse himself at this point. that is a split from where leadership appears to be coming down. house speaker paul ryan saying if the justice department is investigating jeff sessions of course sessions should recuse himself but there is no need in the context of the broader investigation into trump campaign contacts with russia. then you have kevin mccarthy who on morning joe this morning who seemed to suesthat sessions should recuse ...