They're finding ways to help the people taking up arms or doing things like you're doing, using technology to help in the defense of the country. what's behind that? how do ukrainians maintain the energy, the hope, to keep fighting like this? >> from my view, it's quite easy. we're fighting for our homes, for our lives. and from other side, of course technology helps us to be ahead and help our militaries and help our country to survive and to have -- i never imagined that kyiv digital will help to save lives of our citizens because previously it was for comfortable life. but now, yeah, it hel...