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0 a jury of his peers found kyle rittenhouse not guilty on all counts. rittenhouse collapsed in the kenosha, wisconsin courtroom as the final not guilty verdict was read. rittenhouse himself took the stand in his own defense, a risky move that approved successful for the defense. in and out conversation will turn to what's going to happen next. what affect will this case have on things like vigilanteism and self-defense arguments? not to mention what happens immediately in the city of kenosha. joining me from the courthouse in kenosha, wisconsin, nbc correspondent shaquille brewster. former fe...

Ability to lie with confidence. >> it's a terrific sociopathic skill. she's able to tell a lie. she believes the lie. and she's narcissistic enough and entitled enough to believe that she's so good that she's going to pull the wool over someone else. >> if that's true, this jury didn't fall for it. in their assessment of jodi's state of mind. >> ladies and gentlemen, i understand you have reached a verdict. >> their judgment? that it was premeditated. >> we the jury do find the defendant as to count one, first-degree murder, guilty. [cheers] >> outside, the crowd erupted in cheers. >> justice ...

And when you and i have talked. this is our fourth interview. but one thing you said in i think our first interview, how things have morphed. that lynching morphed into mass incarceration. that the lynchings went from the courthouse steps into the courthouse. >> that's right. that's right. i don't think people understand that the real evil of american slavery, it wasn't just the involuntary servitude and the forced labor. it was the narrative that was created by enslavers to justify enslavement. the narrative is black people are not the same as white people. they're less human, less capable, l...

Making a formal complaint to the police. if she's lying, she could be prosecuted. that seems to me to be something very consequence. what i'm directing myself to, defense lawyers try the case on the courthouse steps, that's kind of part of the gig. law enforcement people are supposed to confine themselves to the public record and not supposed to assume the guilt of the person about whom the complaint has been lodged because that undermines the presumption of innocence. he could very easily have called the woman-- this would have been totally accurate. could have called the woman who had come f...

Cheryl pictures of her finished quilt to me back in November.  It was part of that email that had escaped me when I was busy finishing the quilts for kids in need.  I still haven’t gotten back to it.  UGH.  Cheryl was so sweet and understood and just sent the email to me again.  Feel free to send another email to me if I missed something.  Thanks for letting me be human Cheryl!!  Anyway…without even more delay, here’s Cheryl and Beth’s quilt. Beth sent this lovely Courthouse Steps quilt top to me back in the summer.  I sent it to Cheryl in Dallas for quilting and binding.  Th...