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Of cover-up scheme over campaign finance violations. it would be one thing if this happened at any time in our history, but it happened just a couple of weeks before our election. this information was kept from voters. these are very, very serious things. i want to talk about something you just mentioned about indictment. there s been a big debate about this. the white house has done a very interesting, i think clever thing where they say the president can t be indicted pursuant to an olc judgment by the department of justice, and then when you ask them questions about michael cohen they say well, the president isn t facing any charges. but of course the first implies the latter. what do you think about the status of that conventional wisdom and legal policy in the department of justice about the president being subject to indictment? well, i don t think the president s lawyers even believe what they re saying because they keep saying he s not going to testify because he s afraid o ....

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