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Thoughtful and dedicated public servant for as long as i have known him. and for trump, who is, as you have said, delivering the chaos and the crazy at a rate that's massively accelerated from what was already too much to take, for him to come after powell that way is -- it's beyond norm breaking. it's just reprehensible. and as you also correctly point out, just getting back to the economics, now he's taking his chaos to europe to meet with other international leaders and, look, based on what we've seen, i don't see how that ends well. >> jennifer ruben, it's like pig pen. he has a swirling c...

For him to come after powell that way is -- it's beyond norm breaking. it's just reprehensible. and as you also correctly point out, just getting back to the economics, now he's taking his chaos to europe to meet with other international leaders and, look, based on what we've seen, i don't see how that ends well. >> jennifer ruben, it's like pig pen. he has a swirling cloud around him. i have covered g-7s. i never heard they decided before the whole thing started that they're not putting out a joint communique because there is no point. he said mr. trump's wild and unscripted pronouncements on...