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We don't have any details y. is he doing this? he's troubled by the release of this snippet. i'll be the first to admit there is not on its face any chargeable act in that clip that we've got. but seconds later when that thing breaks off, we don't know what's being said. we don't know the context of it. here's what i zero in on. number one, cohen is talking about needing to create a company to do a structured payment, a payment of some kind, to a mistress who needs to be kept silent or to ami in order to get the rights to the story of the mistress to keep it silent. then we hear the word cash ...

Questioning today, but this is 18 months in the making. what can -- and i know the prosecutors don't need any green light from congress, but are they at all weakened by the ongoing war between the fbi and the justice department? >> it's an interesting situation because ultimately doj's policy is that a sitting president can't be indicted. so let's say that emily's backstory turns into an unfolding conspiracy between trump, cohen, pecker, take your pick of all of the participants to engage in campaign finance violations. we just have to laugh and move past. but at this point you think, well, th...

Created. and we looked it up, it was some task force out there, but there still seems to be an accumulation mode. >> in fairness again to this group, as intelligence groups, it is not their job simply implement policy. so it is the state department, defense department, justice department, treasury department who have to step up and take action. >> so these guys are just sounding alarms? they did their jobs today, they sounded all the alarms? >> no, i don't think they have yet done their job because there are tools of u.s. power through the nmsa, fbi, cia, covert act and the like, that can be t...

>> covert, overt. >> how much time should he get in jail, wendy? he could get a lifetime. >> look, if they really believe that he was planning any of this stuff -- because this stuff does go on. the public doesn't like to think that women could be kidnapped and killed and that there's sadistic stuff going on out there. if that's real, he should get a lot of time behind barcelona. frankly, what i'd like to see is the nypd do an investigation of the case files. he was a cop for six years. he was investigating rain, sexual assault, domestic abuse. i'm taking a guess here, but i'm thinking he wasn...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. but they didn't do any act. not one overt act, which is required in federal court for conspiracy to convict him. and the fact is he thought creepy, bad thoughts. >> anne, he looked up a woman's name and he went to her neighborhood after making a plan to kidnap her for $5,000. and let's change the facts a little bit. let's say the guy pretended to be fantasizing about blowing up a plane. then looked on the internet to see when the planes might be arriving. then he went to laguardia. would you honestly be debating whether that guy should be prosecuted? are you kidding me? >> th...