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Overregulated. we need to commit more to the fight. and we need to loosen our rules of engagement. >> i think it's now crystal clear to us that our strategy, our policy, vis-a-vis isis is not working and it's time to look at something else. >> i'll begin with you, dana. >> i think, if i were, if you're at the white house right now, think that one of the things that they have to realize is that they're facing a situation where they do not have public opinion on their side necessarily and they're losing ground, especially, that's another point, when the pruz prez is away, it's harder to communic...

Strategy. >> angry strategists? >> no, what i'm talking about is a sustainable strategy that would solve this problem, rather than -- >> they hate us. >> no, no, you are a little possessed with us, us us. i'm saying let's solve the problem rather than engaging in cowboy strategy. >> we're going to give the president ampb an a, an a in self-love and adoration. in the aftermath of the isis terror attacks in paris, the list of governors opposed to syrian refugees in the u.s. is growing. president obama remains defiant about the plan. more, when we come back.

>> here's a strategy that president obama should take a look at. hit every single truck that's on that highway that goes from syria to iran. stay off the highway if you're not supposed to be there hit the oil fields, level out, level out all the oil fields, hit raqqah, level raqqah, avoid hospitals and schools and see what happens. there's a strategy. as was it hayden who points out with the rules of engagement, you have to lift that. say this is war. but in order to do that, you have to declare war on isis and president obama doesn't want to do it. if he does, he can do these things and you m...

You said there's no strategy. no strategy. >> admitted he had no strategy. >> are you kidding me, what he said by the way to everybody it was a press conference, not a speech. what he said was he believes that he has a strategy. the problem with the strategy, jesse, one the problem with his response at the press conference was, it did not connect with the kind of anger and emotion that we all feel in america in the sense of threat. and the need for a leader to stand up and say i'm going to take care of this threat for you the american people. that's where he fails. but he did not fail in terms...

I was surprised by the defensiveness. >> said something that was pretty incredible. according to many of the military experts here and around the world who i have spoken to. that our strategy is working. people do not believe that to be the case, the only strategy that's working is the strategy that he tends to dismiss and that's the ground troops strategy. >> it's a all very well to say the strategy is working. but it doesn't look like it's working when 130 people have just been killed at random in clubs and restaurants and the streets of paris. and it seems to me that after this, we got it w...