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His former lawyer, lis wiehl. they ignored that evidence, sworn under oath, and chos to rely on unsunday substantiated allegations of anonymous leaked or stolen documents. why a large settlement, $32 million, if as o'reilly complained, it never happened? >> because it happened. because the affidavit that was executed as a condition of the $32 million settlement, does not state that what the draft complaint alleged against o'reilly is false. and what happens, chris, is that the settlement term sheet -- normally settlements are to remain confidential. that settlement term sheet was leaked anonym...

Facilitated it. now we have some concerns from employees even at the weinstein company that sent out this, you know, open letter that said, we didn't know, so don't loop us in all of is it. fundamentally, i think the culture of silence that you hear about, i think it's being destroyed and broken wide open. it's true what joan said. it's a socioeconomic problem that has no limits. so, i'm glad to hear that the threat of litigation was enough, enough for lis wiehl never even had to file the lawsuit. it was the threat of the lawsuit that cowed him being bill o'reilly and 21st century fox saying, ...

To what she had to say. but it seems like, was it his choice to imply she lied about that conversation? >> time and time again, chris, he's incapable of letting any type of perceived sleight go. it's -- it really, i think, for him, a matter of looking as if he's losing an argument. he can't stand the thought that somebody would have the final word. so, it's very similar, actually, to what we saw during the charolettesville riots, when he insisted many sides were responsible for the violence and there were some very fine people in the crowd. points -- illogical yet he was incapable of letting i...