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People on the right are not a majority. even with their disproportionate power, they are not a majority. >> in any experience, the base on the right animates so much of what the rest of the republican party follows. you look back at the alt-right -- >> right, but the republican party is a majority. >> when the alt-right first came on the scene, they were following tactics that were not being used necessarily at the time by conservatives, and a lot of conservatives were calling it out and saying don't do this, do don't do that. two or three years later i'm seeing the head of cpac acting like so...

-- >> right, but the republican party is a majority. >> when the alt-right first came on the scene, they were following tactics that were not being used necessarily at the time by conservatives, and a lot of conservatives were calling it out and saying don't do this, do don't do that. two or three years later i'm seeing the head of cpac acting like somebody who would have trolled me in 2015. they adopted the behaviors. >> but the majority of the country doesn't like it. that's why you suddenly see all this reporting about texas being in play. i understand that the base is solid and committed. ...