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Election year. that's the calculus they're making on all of these decisions. >> john, playing to public opinion, playing to the room, what was your assessment at cpac by the president? >> i think it was a desperate speech by a man who had a horrible week. remember he was trying to deal with the koreans during the course of this week, north koreans and then also had the cohen testimony. i think he is a shaken man and he realizes that what we're discussing now is very relevant to his future. >> it was this extraordinary stream of consciousness. didn't seem like there was a prompter anywhere to b...

Can't we speak to them to find out what they knew. joined from cpac by utah congressman, jason chaffetz, member of the house oversight and government reform committee. good to have you here, congressman. good morning to you. >> good morning. martha: it is interesting. we're learning about a man who has been detained being questioned by the fbi. his name is perhaps chalabi. we know, let's pull up the map of the area, this is hotbed of terrorism where he is from. it is to the east of libya. he clearly has been involved with terrorist groups in the past including possible acap. what do you think ...