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An undecided voter vote for a party that the party is not excited about. >> why would they? that was rick santorum, making the case that he is the real conservative in the race and mitt romney is up next speaking later in the hour. joining me now live from cpac, political reporter for the new yorker, ryan, thanks for joining the program. >> hey, thanks for having me alex. >> ryan, it is prime time for rick santorum, is it not? tell us how his speech earlier this morning was received? >> well, it was pretty well received. people here are excited about him and they are having the same conversati...

Contrast against obama or do we do with mitt romney, who is more likely to get independent voters but could blow himself up before he gets there, and who will so turn off the base that the base will not turn out for you? everything that we are seeing is this fight happening every single day. >> and the trick for romney in the case against santorum, to make the case he is not a true conservative. he has done earmarks and does not believe in a limited role of government, in order to attract the cpac crowd he has to make that distinction, how conservative is rick santorum other than on the social...

>> the catholic bishops have sued over and over again to stop women to get contraceptive through their own insurance that they pay for. this has lost twice. >> the good thing about this debate is it'sity not firry at all. we will be continuing talk about the subject @r neck coming weeks, we look forward to having you both back on the program. thank you for your time. coming up. cpac'ing them in and the term on many tongues is santorum time. is the gop base rallying around the republican candidate named mitt romney? [ male announcer ] yep that's your mouth.

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