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That they think this is good advertising? >> i don't think they necessarily. look, they're not necessarily worried about 2014 because this is going to be a good year for republicans. cyclically it always is. cpac has a presidential ballot. they always do. 26 people on it this year. how do you differentiate yourself in that field of 26? well you got to be one step further to the right than all the other guys. >> the right person always win? >> not necessarily in the primary, but you get the attention, at least early on. >> no does the furthest right candidate at cpac win at cpac? >> this is sor...

Pennsylvania or virginia even now middle of the road, the republican party chairs, men and women of those states are happy with this zoo they're watching on television? that they think this is good advertising? >> i don't think they necessarily. look, they're not necessarily worried about 2014 because this is going to be a good year for republicans. cyclically it always is. cpac has a presidential ballot. they always do. 26 people on it this year. how do you differentiate yourself in that field of 26? well you got to be one step further to the right than all the other guys. >> the right person...

His campaign team knows, alex, these are not huge events. they're small numbers of people and cpac is not a delegate selection event. i talked to someone last night who said we're focused on the two big contests at the end of february, michigan and arizona. we need to win both of them. i think that's where they're placing most of the emphasis right now. >> erin, times mike hall person writes in his blog that boston is exhaling after romney's cpac win. how big a sigh relief overall do you think both wins are? >> as john mentioned, it's very few people voting. there were fewer than 6,000 people ...

mitt romney and ron paul went to caucus sites today. mitt romney's first time campaigning in maine this cycle. they've been going hard after this win to avoid another loss as both suffered on tuesday. >> this is a two-man race? romney and ron paul? >> essential. rick santorum and newt gingrich essentially. it wasn't a part of their whole delicate calculation to come up here and campaign. a few weeks ago when the other three were in florida, ron paul packed up his sweaters and headed north. i was here with him. he came up here because he has a strong young following here. strong liber...