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The conversation. a lot of people talking about democrats, republicans, it's the american people that are suffering as a result of the inaction we're taking. >> you mention the word consensus. take me to the final hours before this went down. you were a yes vote. what was it like behind the scenes in those final moments? it had to be sense. were you trying to convince others. how would you describe it? >> sure. obviously, it was a big piece of legislation. and it was the moment, but i got to give credit to our leadership, to our speaker who truly did listen to the input from our members to the...