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This when the vice president and the republican leaders came out, and they said, the democrats won't negotiate. they won't negotiate. they won't start. there were negotiations that went on before the government shutdown. both sides gave, right? i'll give you a little on this. i'll give you a little on that. they came to an agreement. they were going to sign it. and then the president -- and the president had agreed to it. then all of a sudden he realized that president -- what's her name? >> ann coulter. >> president coulter and president limbaugh says, oh, no, no, no. then he reneged on the d...

There were negotiations that went on before the government shutdown. both sides gave, right? i'll give you a little on this. i'll give you a little on that. they came to an agreement. they were going to sign it. and then the president -- and the president had agreed to it. then all of a sudden he realized that president -- what's her name? >> ann coulter. >> president coulter and president limbaugh says, oh, no, no, no. then he reneged on the deal. so this isn't a both sides. the president is the one who is not negotiating here. >> right. i mean it's not -- even today the description of the me...

Thought maybe that initial debut on hannity and then the fox and friends sort of second round, i thought maybe that was a strategy, but i think we're seeing more and more he's just freelancing. >> what do you think, walter? is this a strategy or just -- >> it's crazy making. what's really baffling as the representative for the president he's contradicting himself in his various statements. it's even hard to figure out what he's saying or what he thinks he's saying. >> jack, i know you don't think it's strategy, so i'll have another question for you. >> come on. >> you can do it quick because i...

You know, listening to that, you wonder if john barron and john miller were separated at birth, because they sure do sound like the same guy. and he'll present this -- people will present him with the audio recordings. and he will deny that it's him. even after he admitted it's him. it's really impossible to follow and kind of crazy making. >> it's interesting, though, because a lot of the lies he told in the past and even nowadays, they require you to be an idiot. they're sort of based on the idea that the person listening is just dumb and doesn't put the pieces together. i mean, they are so ...

It's really impossible to follow and kind of crazy making. >> it's interesting, though, because a lot of the lies he told in the past and even nowadays, they require you to be an idiot. they're sort of based on the idea that the person listening is just dumb and doesn't put the pieces together. i mean, they are so sort of obvious at times that, you know saying he wasn't making fun of a disabled person when he was -- you could see with your own eyes what he was doing. >> um-hum. well, and he was determined to convince james comey that he wasn't making fun of the reporter. it's -- it is him almo...