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Mr. secretary, does it surprise you at all here we are yet again having yet another conversation about yet more chaos in the white house? >> you know, nothing surprises me anymore unfortunately. because you know it appears that this president likes to operate by chaos, and likes to keep staff constantly concerned about whether or not they are going to have a job. i'm not quite sure i understand that. i think stability is a much better course for the white house to take because you are dealing with an unstable world if you have an unstable staff, it makes it that much tougher to deal with that ...

When you hear sarah sanders not willing to say whether vladimir putin is a friend or a foe, what sort of a message do you think that sends? >> i recommend she checks her political vocabulary or stop watching fox news. >> the answer is clear. >> it insults my intelligence. it's so obvious. putin keeps doing the same things. the current occupant of the oval office, by the way, as the previous one, they deny the fact that for many years putin is at war with the united states. it is a hybrid war, putin is a kgb guy, he knows he cannot afford direct confrontation with the united states but he is go...

That's obviously the way this president doesn't like to operate. >> you know, david, there is this notion now that the president is more confident, that he now feels he understands the job of being president more than he did, than when he first started and that he is starting to rely more on his own instincts. if that's true i would imagine we just expect the chaos to continue. >> oh, i think that's right. he is acting like the people that worked for him earlier were just training wheels and he is now up and running himself and he enjoys iter mo. reportedly by his aides he is happier now than ...

Reaction to all of these stories? >> has the president or the chief of staff made any insuranc insuranc insurances -- assurances today about what's to come? >> has the president spoken directly to mcmaster, shulkin or sessions to tell them their jobs are safe? >> why is it felt there is still a need for change in the cabinet or among his circle of advisers? >> is it the president himself creating this aura of chaos or turmoil or potential upheaval in the west wing and frankly across the administration? >> for the record, sarah sanders answered the first two questions with variations of no imme...