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Ablow the co-author of the book, seven wonders that will change your life. i don't believe charlie sheen has read your book. not getting any better, getting worse. let's talk about the media's responsibility here. obviously you have been doing segment, i could be exploiting mr. sheen's troubles. what say you? >> i would say you aren't exploit pliot go his troubles. he is in the business of making news. when a person galvanizes public attention and makes news that is a story that you cover. you don't establish whether the person is competent. that is job for the courts. if mr. sheen's family he...

Disappeared. >> but our manufacturing out put is up. >> bill: but we're making it overseas so the people in wisconsin and michigan can't have those jobs. unless they want to move down to guatemala. >> they get new jobs, that comes back for new jobs, for new jobs to be created. >> bill: somewhat. >> in the recession it has been a job creating machine. >> bill: they were in the public service and tech sector, manufacturing is shot. you can make a good claim union labor killed manufacturing in the u.s.a., could you not? >> yes you could but not just the cost but the work rules. wisconsin, if you ...

Ablow the co-author of the book, seven wonders that will change your life. i don't believe charlie sheen has read your book. not getting any better, getting worse. let's talk about the media's responsibility here. obviously you have been doing segment, i could be exploiting mr. sheen's troubles. what say you? >> i would say you aren't exploit pliot go his troubles. he is in the business of making news. when a person galvanizes public attention and makes news that is a story that you cover. you don't establish whether the person is competent. that is job for the courts. if mr. sheen's family he...

Make it worse? >> it would make it worse for the sake of obviously once again the government is spending more money that we don't have. for the sake of the people, if this could work and we can miraculously come up with the money, yes, we want to help our society. we want everyone to be better. i don't think people want to be out of work. >> i don't know. i think they love being out of work. i worry because i think the more people are out of work, the more people watch "red eye" because they can stay up late. they don't have to get up in the morning. unemployment helps this show which means i ...