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National polls. i think all eyes are still going to be on jeb bush, ben carson, carly fiorina, marco rubio for sure, but these single-digit candidates have got to emerge as a credibility alternative both to more of an establishment jeb bush and a donald trump ben carson. that is hard to do. of course they're very different candidates with different appeals for different people. >> neil, you talked about libertarians, rand paul has not taken off, either. he is out antiestablishment by other people in the field. >> i think a lot of people who call themselves conservative libertarians are very al...

This is a constant drip drip drip against her credibility, which is i think why she turned over the server in the first place. she is has trust worthiness issues. >> this is a nonpartisan problem. people on both sides of the aisle are acknowledges she hayes challenges. if her candidacy crumble, who will take up the mantel. 53%, john avalon. 53% now say the democrats now say they want joe biden in the race, or at least they is like the idea of him running. >> they like the idea of him getting in. it gives a credibility alternative to hillary clinton. the fact that no democrat, o'malley or web...