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May not be his tax return. donald trump, the credibility level, who knows. he has a big tax return, for sure. >> that was a dangerous question, lawrence. >> you know what i was risking was the first thing that would come to your mind, but you know that is what we do here. >> which is what we call skating on thin ice, lawrence. >> all right, did bernie sanders really win that debate? coming up. [ male announcer ] some come here to build something smarter. ♪ some come here to build something stronger. others come to build something faster... something safer... something greener. something the ...

Retribution. i'm not, it's not my nature, but i will tell you, it's -- the credibility level is getting reduced and reduced and reduced as this story continues to move on. let me also explain one other thing, chris. a lot of folks, including your group and everybody else that's been calling me for interviews over the last three or four months, i didn't enter this political fray, i never viewed it to be a benefit to the residents of fort lee, they've been through enough. there were various agencies that were seeking facts, conducting investigations to make sure we got to the bottom of this, to ...

>> the credibility level is getting reduced and reduced as this story continues to move on. >> alex, has the damage already been done? let me show you the front page of "the trentonian." and he has that love loy cone on the top of his head. >> chris, i think it's funny to hear the new jersey democrats trying to it strike this we're so disappointed tone, because this is christmas for the guys. el certainly some damage is done, but when you look at where the folks in the legislature are in this, this is just getting started. i agree with susan that today's performance by christie is extremely im...

I never viewed myself as being that important, the governor himself said i'm not on his radar nor am i in his rolodex, i'm thinking, how could this possibly be? now reading the e-mails and the texts that we see today, certainly it is the case, and i'm embarrassed for those people. >> what is your response to the governor trying to distance himself to this. the fact that there is a smoking gun. that comes from one of his deputy chiefs of staff. how far up do you think this goes? >> everybody asks me that question, i'm not here to speculate, nor will i speculate, i will tell you, though, it's go...